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Now, if you did select the place where I tell you to fill,

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you'll be reading this Pinehouse Überfunded Special report.

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Who's the reason I sent you this recording

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for

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documentation of the YOUTH

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and auchag to ask if I love

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We came over here to visit a friend,

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and we planned to go to dinner.

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After the dinner, my husband wanted to do the tour.

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We walked into this room, and I'm taking pictures, no flash,

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not expecting to see anything.

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I ended up, you know, taking pictures this way,

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and obviously having to go around the bed,

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taking pictures and heading out the door.

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And I was the last in the room.

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So it was like during the week, after work, after dinner,

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sitting on the couch and remembering

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that we had been to the Myrtles,

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flipping through some of the pictures,

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and they were all, they were horrible.

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They were brown and blurry and smeary.

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But then I roll into one of them that was really shocking.

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So this is the picture of, it looks like this pain.

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The image is much smaller than

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if a person was standing near it.

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So the size doesn't really make sense.

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The Myrtles Plantation is a place with a dark and complicated past.

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For over 40 years, visitors have flocked to its grounds,

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wanting to experience the paranormal activity

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said to occur here.

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Welcome to the Myrtles.

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My name is Hester E.B.,

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and I'll show you around a little bit.

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This was one of my favorite rooms, the main dining room.

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You say the Myrtles Plantation, you say haunted house.

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And but it's so much more to it, so much more.

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And I've learned that through the years.

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The Myrtles has always been known and referred to as

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one of America's most haunted homes.

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The flashlight just turned on itself.

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As we sleep, the strange noises and the noise

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the strange noises intensify.

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I legit felt somebody string up whispering my ear.

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The Myrtles is located here in St. Francisville, Louisiana,

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which is about 25 miles north of Baton Rouge.

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It's a small, quaint, you know, bed and breakfast type community

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that packs a mighty punch with a lot of charm and just a lot of character.

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This is the French bedroom.

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This room holds all of the original pieces.

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Our dolls are just a bit of our decorations,

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but a lot of people have stories, especially the dolls

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that you'll find in the Fannie Williams room.

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A lot of people get a little parent.

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They say that they change directions.

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People have told me, you know, it's someone over there.

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You know, you may not see them.

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But they're over there. And I believe them.

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Or some people may leave and say, do you really believe in this?

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And I'll say, yes, I do.

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My history of the Myrtles began with needing a job years ago,

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looking through the phone book, and I dropped it,

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and it fell on M Myrtles' plantation home.

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A house was built in 1796.

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A man named General David Bradford built it.

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He led the Whiskey Rebellion in Pennsylvania.

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So he came here to Louisiana running for his life.

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This will give you an idea of how General Bradford looked.

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And like any father, he arranged for his daughter's marriage,

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and he thought the man suitable for her

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was a man named Judge Clark Woodruff.

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He married the general's daughter, Sarah.

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He took over, changed the name from Laurel Hill to the Myrtles.

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Because of their love for crepe Myrtles trees.

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I came to be the owner of the Myrtles plantation

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because I grew up here. I suppose I was born into it.

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My family purchased the property in 92.

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I was eight months old.

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They were really intrigued with the idea

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of moving on to the property and making it home.

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They thought it would be cute to have a family

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and they thought it would be cute to raise an infant

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at a sleepy bed and breakfast in the country.

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And little did they know.

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My parents knew that Myrtles had been known

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as one of America's most haunted homes

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when they purchased the property in 92.

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I don't know that they were necessarily big believers of that.

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I've definitely had a couple of experiences,

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mostly related to just like seeing things out of my peripherals

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and just something just very descriptive

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that I was certain that I was seeing

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and I could describe the experience that I was having

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and then it would go away.

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Some people sense things.

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They don't have to see so much because they can sense it.

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And I feel sometimes if I can turn around fast enough

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it's someone right by my side.

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But I can't move fast enough to see them.

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Out of the corner of my eyes someone is there.

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Sometimes it's a fragrance.

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Sometimes it's just the feel or that rock or rock.

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Did you see that?

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I saw it.

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Explain it.

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I can't.

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This photo is one that was taken by my mom in late 1992.

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She was taking photos on the property for insurance purposes.

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They were just working on reinsuring the property

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for the following year.

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And she wasn't to have any people in her photos.

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So she had chosen to do it on a day that she was there by herself.

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She took these photos, submitted them to insurance

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and they called her back saying that there was a person

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in one of her photos.

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My folks were a bit skeptic of the whole paranormal activity

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of the property whenever they purchased it.

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And I think this was the shift for them.

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I'm a paranormal investigator,

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which I have a group that we investigate houses

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belonging to families that are being bothered

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by things that go bump in the night.

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My wife and I decided to come here on our 10th anniversary

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to spend the night.

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And all of a sudden the windows right there in front of us

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they started vibrating violently.

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There's no mechanism around there that would cause that.

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And I went up to touch the window right before I touched it and stopped.

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And then I step outside and I take a picture.

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I didn't see it at the time,

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but when I developed a film later on,

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it appears to be a little girl climbing out of the window.

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I mean, you can see her hairline, you can see the puffy sleeves.

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But most of the things that occur here are very subtle.

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They're audible.

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You might put your glass down on a table

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and you turn to do something that glass might be six inches over.

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Or you might take off your earrings

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and you put earrings over there and you find out one of them is missing.

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Supposedly one of the spirits here is very OCD.

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If you move things, she'll put it back.

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My wife, she's a skeptic, except for this place.

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But my other ghost investigations,

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she's always, oh, that's nothing.

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That didn't happen.

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She'll point out things to me that I'm so involved with.

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Well, did you think about this?

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It could have been this, it could have been that.

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But as for this house, she's 100% involved.

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I don't think there's an ounce of skepticism

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when it comes to the Myrtles, because we've lived it.

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One time we were waiting for a group to go in the house

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and it was a little girl with her mother.

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I greeted her and she said,

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why are you dirty?

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And so I looked down, you know, trying to make sure.

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So I looked fairly decent and she said,

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are you hungry?

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And she was very serious.

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It was time for them to go in the house

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and as I walked them to the door,

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she had turned around and she was looking back

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where we were talking earlier.

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And her mother and I realized she was not talking to me.

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She was talking to someone else.

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She was looking at someone beyond me.

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And whoever that person was may have been a little dirty

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and perhaps they look like they were hungry.

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There is an opening with kids that adults don't have.

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We learn to question everything

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and children just don't do that.

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I don't know who she saw.

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I cannot say it was Chloe.

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I cannot say it was not another house servant.

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But I do know she was not talking to me.

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The little girl on tour is not alone.

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Other guests have caught sight of what they perceive

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to be a ghost called Chloe.

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It's said that there was a young slave girl

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that lived in the house in the early 1800s.

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Her name was Chloe.

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The story goes Judge Woodruff took on a house servant.

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From the neck up, she's a black woman.

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Her left ear is not there.

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She was wearing a green turban to cover that area.

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It was allegedly not enough that he enslaved her

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but was abusing her too.

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And she knew she had to go along with it

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because if she didn't, she'd be out working in the fields,

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which was the hardest and worst labor on the plantation.

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She was caught listening in, eavesdropping

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on some of their family business.

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It is said that she had one of her ears cut off

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in punishment for that.

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And then the story goes she was spending most of her time

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plotting what she could do to make herself

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important to the family again.

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She decided she would bake a birthday cake

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for the judge's oldest daughter.

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Use the juices from the popular but poisonous oleander

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Some people believe it was just to make them sick

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so that she could nurse the family back to health

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and prove how important she was.

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Others believe that it was done out of revenge,

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that she had put the poison in the cake to kill the family.

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Sarah at the time was said to have been pregnant

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with her third child.

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The children and Sarah ate the cake

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and instead of getting sick, the poison killed them.

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After confessing Chloe was hung

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and they believed if they weighed down a body in the river,

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the spirit could not rise and harm anyone.

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Well, something went wrong that night.

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Her spirit is certainly here.

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A lot of people spend the night, they have a very quiet night.

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Others do not.

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Others claim that they see her.

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The story of Chloe is one of the Myrtles most famous.

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But the recorded history surrounding it

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leaves some unanswered questions.

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When I was writing a book about very famous places

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in the United States that are said to be haunted,

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of course I had to come here to the Myrtles plantation.

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I call myself a skeptic, but I'm not a cynic,

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so I try to keep an open mind.

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The first time I came here, I did a tour during the day

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and then I did one at night time as well.

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It seems like every tour I go on, there are new stories

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about new ghosts, so it's constantly being added

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to constantly evolving.

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The most famous ghost story connected to the Myrtles,

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unfortunately, is the one that doesn't have much authenticity

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behind it, and that's the story of Chloe.

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She's been seen many times as a woman

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wearing a green wrap or a green turban around her head.

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In the 1950s, when Marjorie Munson took over this plantation

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and she started to hear some of the ghost stories,

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she was told about an experience with a woman in the house

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who wore a green turban or a green wrap around her head.

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And this story sort of stuck around,

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that there was a ghost who haunted the house.

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She seemed to be the resident spirit here,

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a woman in a green turban.

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Well, when the story of Chloe was created out of thin air,

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it was using the story of the ghost with the green turban,

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even though the descriptions didn't match,

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but we don't want to let facts get in the way of a good story.

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At least that's what happened.

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So initially, she was a little old French lady

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who wore a green dress.

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And then as time has worn on,

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she has become a young French-Canadian nanny

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who wears a green bonnet.

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Sometimes she's said to be white,

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other times she's said to be black.

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In some stories, she's said to be young and beautiful.

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In other stories, she's a large, older woman.

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There are numerous issues with this story,

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not the least of which is there's no record

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that the Woodruff family ever had a slave named Chloe.

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There are records of their other slaves written down by name,

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but there's no Chloe in the records.

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I think there are so many different versions of Chloe

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because Chloe needs to fit in with our time.

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If we go back further in time,

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there's more of a connection to French-Canadian history.

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And so back in the 1920s and the 1940s,

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that would have made sense as a ghost.

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Whereas today, what's one of the worst things

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we can think about in society?

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It's racism. It's enslavement.

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So I think that the ghost is always really a figment

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of our imagination connected to our times.

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I think that's probably what bothered me more

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than anything else about this place

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when I first came here looking for authentic history

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and realized that the history that was being told

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and is still being told is impossible.

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I think that the stories of the Myrtles are definitely,

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they're folklore stories that have been passed down.

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I've been told these stories my entire life.

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There's parts of the story that we know

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have been proven to be inaccurate,

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but it's just so ingrained into those folklore stories

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that the stories continued to be told.

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It stayed the course with just trying to be a property

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that's there to entertain.

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There is room for different beliefs.

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Are you sure it happened this way?

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Are you sure it happened that way? Always.

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We're not here to prove anything to anyone.

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I enjoy telling stories.

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We as tour guides enjoy telling stories,

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and that is it.

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We like to entertain our guests.

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I think it's okay to tell the folklore.

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I think it's a part of this house.

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All of these stories are attached to the house,

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and they've been around for a long time, over 100 years.

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That's not to be discounted,

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people's experiences and their stories.

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We can focus on a story like Chloe and say,

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oh, hey, look how awful this is.

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And I suppose somebody might say,

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oh, it's an inclusive story.

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The star of the story is an African-American woman,

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but she's the villain, and she didn't exist,

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and she didn't do anything wrong.

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Chloe's just one of the people who died here,

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and one of the stories, so whether she existed or did not exist,

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there's been other murders and deaths here,

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and other family tragedies as well.

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Even though the folklore and ghost stories told at the Myrtles

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may not be entirely true, one thing is certain.

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Countless visitors have reported experiences

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that cannot be explained.

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I think the Myrtles definitely has all the ingredients

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of a place that's haunted.

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It certainly has the history behind it.

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I just went into the records and get to the bottom of the story.

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When David Bradford came down here in the 1700s,

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he brought his family down, started a plantation.

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He had been an attorney and decided to open up

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in the area to people who wanted to study law,

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and one of his students was a man named Clark Woodruff,

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who came here to learn to be a lawyer,

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and he also fell in love with Judge Bradford's daughter,

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Sarah Matilda.

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They ended up getting married and had three children.

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After Bradford died, they took over the house.

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In 1823, Sarah died,

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but not from poisoned birthday cake.

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It was easy to check the records and discover that Sarah died

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from yellow fever.

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It was pretty tragic, but he remained behind

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with his children at the house.

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The following summer, two of his children died

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also from yellow fever.

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No one ever died from poisoned birthday cake.

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Also, Sarah was supposed to have been pregnant with her third child,

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which meant that Octavia would have never existed,

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but she very clearly did.

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He sent his oldest daughter away to boarding school

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and sold the place to the Sterling family a few years later,

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and then they suffered tragedies here, too.

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Four of their nine children only made it to adulthood.

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The rest died from natural causes here at the house,

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on the property.

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After that, the house was sold and reaped, sold many times.

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More tragedies happen.

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The real history of the Myrtles does deal with a lot of tragedy,

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a lot of trauma.

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There have been quite a few deaths that have occurred inside the house.

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The son-in-law of the Sterlings was murdered.

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That murder was never solved.

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Someone drowned after chasing some stray cattle,

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and the list just kept going on.

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So if we believe that ghosts remain behind because of unfinished business,

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this is a place that certainly has that.

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This house, for some reason, I don't know what it is.

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It's just the history of all the angst and the anger and the sorrow and stuff,

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and if that has been imprinted in this house is a theory.

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Boy, based on the people who don't know each other,

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have no connection whatsoever,

364
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and yet have reported very similar encounters and happenings in the house,

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I certainly think it can be haunted.

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MUSIC

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Now, we're outside on the back porch,

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and you know we've had people just relaxing on the porch way.

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They would say how nice it is to have the waitresses,

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or waiters in costume.

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We do not have them in costume.

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Who they're seeing flowing around back and forth, we don't know.

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These ghosts here, these spirits here,

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maybe they get in attachment with you.

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You know, I know there's one girl that likes to have children around,

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and my son, he didn't remember this,

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but when we brought him here when he was a kid,

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and I said, where you been?

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So I was playing with a little blonde girl over there on the front.

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There was no kids on the property, you know.

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There are a lot of children who were here in the house.

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You know, the Sterling family lost a number of their children at a young age,

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so it's possible that their ghosts could remain behind as well.

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There are stories that you, you know, might see the children in the mirror,

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or that more commonly people hear them laughing and playing.

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There have been children seen on the front porch in period clothing.

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Everybody has their only experiences and stuff,

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and sometimes people experience something dark.

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So I don't know what sparked that,

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but I do know that they have a tendency to show themselves with us.

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One time we were checking out, and we went back up to the room

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to see if there was anything we might have left.

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And there in the middle of the room was a big marble.

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Now, we would have seen that marble, you know, during the night or anything,

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and I said, wow, and I looked down and I picked it up.

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I said, where did this come from?

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And under that same dresser, a marble came rolling out.

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I usually walk around where they record with me,

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and we were just packing away stuff my wife and I.

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And then this woman next to me, who was not there, she goes, I hate you.

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And I played it back later, and I said, wow,

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I must have pissed off somebody.

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We ask questions, are you here, things like that.

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And if you're lucky, you'll get a response, an intelligent response.

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There's four rooms here up on the top floor here, as you well could see,

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and they're all named after certain people that are associated with this house.

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In this room, the John Leak room, I had my foot sticking out of the bed

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and somebody grabbed my ankle and started playing with my toes.

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One time, we were sitting downstairs about one o'clock in the morning,

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and all of a sudden, the chandelier started swooping back and forth.

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I thought it was going to fall right out of the ceiling.

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And then this young lady, who I met that first time that night,

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she goes, do you see her?

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And I go, see who? She's right in front of you.

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And my hair is standing on end, and I was cold, and she's really angry at you.

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She's wagging her finger in front of you, you're facing, yelling at you.

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And I'm like, wow, I'm watching the chandelier just going crazy.

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And then it started diminishing a little bit, and I go, is she here in front of me now?

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No, she just walked past me. She went into the children's dining room area

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where you've had your cameras set up.

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And so I went in there and started taking pictures left and right, both cameras.

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And I took the role of film to a dealership that I do was really good at processing film quickly.

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He comes out and said, did you just come from the airport?

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I said, no, why? He said, all your film is burned.

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Why do you keep coming back?

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That's a good question. Many people have asked that.

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I guess it's like riding a ferris wheel or a roller coaster.

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You know, you're petrified as that car is going to the peak of the roller coaster,

429
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and then that, oh, come on, let's do it again.

430
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But overall, I'm just a paranormal enthusiast who loves the Myrtle's plantation.

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The paranormal activity at the Myrtle's ranges from benign sightings to physical disturbances.

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But what is it trying to tell us?

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If you were to put the 21st century Myrtle's on a longer historical timeline,

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I think it's part of a 200-year-old story of trying to make a plantation as profitable as possible.

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Before emancipation, that meant forcing enslaved people to grow cotton.

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As the cotton industry collapsed in the early 20th century,

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the moneymaker became a certain brand of racial tourism

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that engaged in white Americans' fantasies of power and supremacy.

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That dynamic continues to this day, but in the 21st century,

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there are more and more Americans who are uncomfortable with that or who see real problems in it.

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We're operating a plantation property in modern day,

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and we're modernizing it to the sense that it is here for everyone and of all walks of life.

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I'm not tone deaf to the idea that that's offensive to some,

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and those that it is triggering to or offensive to,

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I want to know what can we do to better that and to improve that.

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The plantation owners around here left behind in many cases very detailed records,

447
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and we can look at what day-to-day business on these plantations was like.

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Bennett H. Barrow, a planter who lived a little under a mile from the Myrtle's plantation,

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he kept a daily diary, and in that diary, he recorded the torture that he personally inflicted

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on the roughly 100 people that he held as property.

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Whippings, dunking slaves, heads underwater, this really barbaric,

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terrifying mixture of corporal pain and public humiliation.

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I think really the focus of this place should change in that

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tell the story to Chloe and then tell people that's not real.

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It's not only the Myrtle's that has avoided a more historically-minded approach

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and instead pivoted to tourism.

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Many other plantations have done the same, and as seen across social media,

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many are opposed to the idea.

459
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And this plantation was turned into a bit of breakfast,

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like a place where my ancestors were killed, beaten, raped.

461
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It's really weird that people get married at plantations.

462
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God knows how many slaves were lynched or tortured or buried.

463
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And then getting married there and having the happiest day of your life there.

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The history of slavery in this country is constantly denied,

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and now it's being mocked by being turned into a luxurious vacation spot.

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I want us to focus our energies on recovering the stories and perspectives of

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Southern slave people.

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People trying to survive and endure under situations of extreme hardship and oppression,

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trying to build families and communities and transmit culture.

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I find those stories to be much more powerful and much more meaningful and intriguing

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than stories that celebrate women in hoop skirts eating cucumber sandwiches

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and the veranda.

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Unfortunately, most of the stories of those enslaved at the Myrtles have been lost,

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because at the time, records of their lives were not consistently kept.

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There's so much to unpack.

476
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It's something that's behind the scenes and off camera is super important to us

477
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so that we want to make sure that we're getting right.

478
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It's challenging and uncomfortable.

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However complicated the history behind the Myrtles and present day use of the property is,

480
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one thing is clear.

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Ghosts of many kinds reside here.

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It was believed whenever anyone died on the plantation grounds

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that all the mirrors would be covered with a black cloth.

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During the time that Judge Woodruff lost part of his family,

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it was supposed to have been so much confusion

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that it's believed that this mirror was hanging in the main dining room.

487
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It was left uncovered.

488
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You see in this side of the mirror, it looks like hand prints or paw prints.

489
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It's believed that the spirits from those people's souls still live inside.

490
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A lot of people take pictures of this mirror.

491
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The faces of two small children will come out in that section of their photographs.

492
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Well, it's buzzing out by the mirror.

493
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Look, right by the stains.

494
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I don't believe that it's a few hundred years old.

495
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It's not original to the house.

496
00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:15,980
To look at the supposed face and the alleged hand marks and claw marks,

497
00:29:15,980 --> 00:29:18,980
it looks more like imperfections in the mirror.

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The hand prints seem to be there,

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00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:24,980
and they could be the hand prints of people who made the mirror.

500
00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:26,980
I saw stuff in that mirror.

501
00:29:26,980 --> 00:29:30,980
It was about one or two o'clock in the morning, my brother-in-law and I were still up.

502
00:29:30,980 --> 00:29:34,980
I was looking and I thought I saw a light inside the mirror,

503
00:29:34,980 --> 00:29:36,980
and I'm thinking, okay, it's car traffic outside.

504
00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:41,980
And we got up and looked at it inside the mirror with these three balls of light,

505
00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:44,980
and they were bouncing around inside like a pinball.

506
00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:48,980
And then I looked at my brother-in-law, and he was like in a aura.

507
00:29:48,980 --> 00:29:53,980
He had a white shirt on, and he was lit up like he was in a nightclub with black lights.

508
00:29:53,980 --> 00:29:56,980
And all our hair was standing on the end.

509
00:29:56,980 --> 00:30:02,980
You felt a lot of energy, and then it went away, and then the light, everything went out.

510
00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:06,980
There's a lot of people who have seen things in the mirror,

511
00:30:06,980 --> 00:30:10,980
whether it's with their eyes or in their photos that they've taken,

512
00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:15,980
and it is the most photographed place in the plantation.

513
00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:24,980
A lot of people come here and take photographs,

514
00:30:24,980 --> 00:30:28,980
and later on we'll discover that there are pictures of ghosts, there are little girls,

515
00:30:28,980 --> 00:30:34,980
or they see Chloe, but usually after they have taken the photograph.

516
00:30:34,980 --> 00:30:41,980
So I've examined a number of these photographs and recognised some of these ghosts.

517
00:30:41,980 --> 00:30:44,980
Sometimes they come from ghost apps.

518
00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:51,980
So they're used a lot in photographs of other famous places too.

519
00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:57,980
There are dozens of ghost apps out there, and you can easily create these ghosts yourself.

520
00:30:57,980 --> 00:31:02,980
You take a picture of something, there's nothing there, and then you insert a picture of a creepy little girl,

521
00:31:02,980 --> 00:31:04,980
and you've got a ghost.

522
00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:10,980
If we take a look at the legendary ghost photograph, it's not very good quality,

523
00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:15,980
so it's very blurry, it's difficult to see detail.

524
00:31:15,980 --> 00:31:20,980
And there are lots of natural explanations for what the photograph is of.

525
00:31:20,980 --> 00:31:26,980
It could be a photograph of a shadow, it could also be tools or equipment,

526
00:31:26,980 --> 00:31:30,980
or other things that were stored there at the time.

527
00:31:30,980 --> 00:31:34,980
I think it fits in with the beliefs of a lot of people that this is Chloe,

528
00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:38,980
this is what people want to see in that photograph.

529
00:31:39,980 --> 00:31:46,980
But not every photo captured at the Myrtles has a logical explanation behind it.

530
00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:50,980
One time it poured down rain, it really came down hard,

531
00:31:50,980 --> 00:31:54,980
and there was a really cool foggy mist on the pond out there.

532
00:31:54,980 --> 00:31:57,980
I said, I'm going to go out there and take some pictures.

533
00:31:57,980 --> 00:32:01,980
So I set up the tripod, I used that 1600 speed film.

534
00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:06,980
So I processed the film, and I wish I'd taken more photos.

535
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:10,980
There was a little red light in the gazebo, and then it got bigger,

536
00:32:10,980 --> 00:32:12,980
and it looked like a woman with a hat on.

537
00:32:12,980 --> 00:32:16,980
That's my interpretation of it, it could be a lot of things, but you could see it, you know,

538
00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:18,980
something, and I wish I'd taken more shots,

539
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:23,980
because it seems like something was progressing into something a little bit more.

540
00:32:29,980 --> 00:32:33,980
I would say absolutely come to the Myrtles plantation

541
00:32:33,980 --> 00:32:40,980
and enjoy the folklore, enjoy the stories, enjoy that experience as entertainment.

542
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:46,980
But that it's very important to also honour the history.

543
00:32:46,980 --> 00:32:54,980
History is incredibly important, and we want to not erase that with fiction.

544
00:32:54,980 --> 00:32:59,980
I tell everybody, come in with an open mind, pay attention to everything,

545
00:32:59,980 --> 00:33:04,980
just respect the house more than anything else, respect the history.

546
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:10,980
I hope that people continue to get excited over the paranormal side of the property

547
00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:13,980
and just play with the haunts and folklore that that all is,

548
00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:18,980
but I also hope to move the property in a direction that is a place that continues to broaden

549
00:33:18,980 --> 00:33:23,980
why people are coming onto the property, and ultimately just continues to be a venue,

550
00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:28,980
a place to entertain and to host people of all walks of life.

551
00:33:29,980 --> 00:33:33,980
I've known Morgan ever since he was 18 months old.

552
00:33:33,980 --> 00:33:36,980
Now he's running the Myrtles and he's doing such a good job.

553
00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:40,980
And he will tell you if he's not already told you.

554
00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:44,980
It's not that he runs the Myrtles, the Myrtles runs him.

555
00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:51,980
A lot of people ask me before I came to the Myrtles, did I believe in ghosts?

556
00:33:51,980 --> 00:33:54,980
Yes, I've always believed in ghosts.

557
00:33:54,980 --> 00:33:59,980
But there's something about being here and believing in ghosts

558
00:33:59,980 --> 00:34:04,980
and then just opening myself to what is here.

559
00:34:06,980 --> 00:34:09,980
It's so much that we do not know.

560
00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:16,980
There's an old spiritual song that says that I know about it better in the buy and buy.

561
00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:21,980
It's so much you don't know about, but am I ready for it yet?

562
00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:23,980
You know, I can wait.

563
00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:29,980
But when I take those pictures and it's something there that I can't see with the naked eye,

564
00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:34,980
it makes you wonder, you know, what is really going on? Who's watching you?

565
00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:42,980
The real history of the Myrtles may always be unclear, but one thing is certain.

566
00:34:44,980 --> 00:34:48,980
We are the visitors. They are not.

567
00:34:54,980 --> 00:35:24,980
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568
00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:54,980
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569
00:35:54,980 --> 00:36:24,980
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570
00:36:24,980 --> 00:36:44,670
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